TASMANIAN FOREST AGREEMENT -
RESERVE ORDER 2013
Mr FINCH (Rosevears) - Mr
President, I was not going to get up to speak because I have rewritten this
speech about three times to take the volatility out of it. I was encouraged by
the member for Apsley not to speak because I was thinking she was not going to
speak as well. I took her advice, but when she went against her own advice and
got up and spoke, I thought that I had better respond. I have taken the
volatility out of it.
It is nonsense
to further delay this modicum of certainty that we are looking for in the
Tasmanian forest industry and that we have been asked for by people in our
briefings yesterday. In briefings yesterday the government could do more than
to give us access to all the people who can give us what advice we need at the
time and to make them available for as long as we need them. If we needed them
for an hour they are in, gone, out, bang. We kept them there from 9.30 a.m.
until 5.30-6 p.m. and we had the opportunity to get the answers to the
questions and queries that we might have. I am sure that if we had wanted
further advice, the government would have agreed and got the people in to tell
us the answers that we needed to have, to give us the full argument, the issues
and answers to the questions that we needed to have.
That is why I do
not see any need for a short, sharp assessment. We had it yesterday or we had
the opportunity yesterday. If we did not take it up, that is on your heads. I
have asked the questions that I had.
Mr Mulder - Be calm.
Mr FINCH - Thank you. That is a point that I
wanted to make and I am not a government toady. I recognise we are given the
opportunity to get the answers to those questions we have and to drill down. We
had the people in the room. Then again, what relevance does the federal
election have to an agreement between the movers of the forestry industry, the
unions and the environmental groups? None. All of whom argued for certainty as
soon as possible in this stanza. It is not about certainty about the whole
future because we are only dealing with one point in time about it, and there
are other opportunities for us to reject this or to move forward with it.
Mr Mulder - It is littered with landmines.
Mr FINCH - Littered with landmines but we can
traverse that landscape as we move into the future. But this is a step along
the way. The public, the forestry industry, probably the majority of the
Chamber, are up to pussy's bow with this debate.
Do we want the
forestry industry in Tasmania
or not? The member for Elwick might have misinterpreted something I was saying
this morning to suggest that I was negative about the future of the forestry
industry. I am very positive. I have always been a supporter of the forestry
industry even though during the pulp mill debate there would have been the
suggestion that I may not have been but I have always been. I have grown up in
the bush, I know the bush and I am a supporter of what occurs there, and what
can occur and what the future holds. I am excited by it. No-one is excited
about the process we have been through.
Mr PRESIDENT - I am excited about the question
before us though.
Mr FINCH - I was wondering where you were, Mr
President. We are a House of review and I fear that we are being drawn into a
party political agenda, and that is what sits uneasily with me as an
independent. We have heard reference to the politics being played out here and
that is what makes me uncomfortable in a House of review. If we throw out this
product of years of painful negotiation, we will be judged in future years as
having been on the wrong side of history.
Ms Rattray - We have heard that before.
Mr FINCH - We have heard that before and the
future will tell us. But I heard it today from the member for Western Tiers
suggesting that in the future we could be judged as being on the wrong side of
history. I disagree and when we come out of this, with this positive future and
a new way of doing things in the forestry industry, that will be the right side
of history. Are we to reject the view of the industry at the centre of this
Mr PRESIDENT - If I might, some advice has been
provided. We are strictly looking at whether the debate stand adjourned.
Reasons can be put forward as to why it should or should not be adjourned but
if we can restrict ourselves to those; depending upon what happens to that vote
will be whether we go back to the substantive question, which is what some have
Mr FINCH - I am trusting future colleagues who
come to the lectern will keep that in mind, Mr President. I will sit down now.
I do not support the motion.
Question - That
the debate be adjourned - put.
- I note we have all
members present in the Chamber. Rather than waiting for four minutes we can
lock the doors.